Christian Obedience and Leadership


This is not easy for me to say, but as the LORD impressed me to do it, I will obey!

As this new time has begun, and we all feel that HIS glory power is in the air, there is lots of confusion and everyone seems to be afraid with who is more, and who is less.

We think leadership is not necessary, and many are running with their own visions and own thoughts.

First of all, I must say that leadership in the world is totally different than leadership in His Kingdom.  Look at the image and I think it is clear!

Leaders in God’s Kingdom are also sheep’s over part of the flock.  They only are as sheepdogs and wear a little bell.  As soon as THE MASTER whistles, they run toward Him and listen to what He has to say and then share it with the rest!

It is not about more or less, for as soon as we are converted and baptized in water and the Holy Spirit, we all need to die to self and let HIM be the KING in our lives!

Less of me, is more of HIM!

As long as the Bride is not ready for her Bridegroom, the LORD will work with HIS servant leaders.  And as He said in HIS word that HE will tend them Himself it must be clear to us, that in this end-time scenario, SERVANT Leaders are a key in HIS plan.  Meaning HE can work, can serve in HIS splendor with HIS power and glory, because HIS leaders are completely death to self!

So when He sends them, you can receive them as if you receive HIM!

Today the Mahanayim House is filled with water.  Bad, bad weather is the cause on one hand, on the other hand deaf ears are the problem.

As soon as The LORD called me, I have experienced so much persecution and accusations, and so on, that I could hardly even minister.

The good news, is I knew I had to face the PIT as Joseph did (people or prophets in training).  The bad news is that women were not suppose to lead people (male) thought.

They forget about Deborah, Esther, and oh so many more, but anyway, I have learned compassion and empathy through experience and not by reading books only!

There came a point I almost throw in the towel and wanted to give up!  But the LORD did not…  And finally I started to stand in the call HE gave me!

But what happened this afternoon is a much needed example for HIS children!

In this new time, we must not forget about the leadership in HIS Kingdom.  Look at the world and what is happening there in schools and hospitals and so on.  So much chaos because there is no more respect.

Everyone wants to BE someone and even without the proper skills we open restaurants, and Bed & Breakfasts, and we scream to our teachers, use knifes when the doctor or nurse does not do what WE think must happen…. It is chaos!

The 5-fold ministry is a GIFT to HIS Church and He still gives a prophetic vision to those He chooses to lead which means HE shows them what HE wants and most of the time they have been through a lot and learned through the hard way to die to self and obey their KING no matter what!

Now, back to the Mahanayim House.  I cannot count the many times where things got wrong, because people simply did not listen to what the LORD told us, through me.

I did not chose myself, make no mistake about that.  In fact, I fought with the LORD in the beginning, because of all the accusations of being a Jezebel!  Until the LORD, I think almost to the point of being angry at me said:

“Who do you think you are?  I  AM the one you need to obey no matter what they say or think or do!”

And then He gave me this scripture:

“Now behold, I have made you today as a fortified city and as a pillar of iron and as walls of bronze against the whole land, to the kings of Judah, to its princes, to its priests and to the people of the land.  “They will fight against you, but they will not overcome you, for I AM with you to deliver you,” declares the LORD,”   Jeremiah 1:18-19.

I knew I had to obey, and I did.

But this afternoon we saw disaster, because again no matter how often I had told the rest of the group that certain things were not in order, not in the right state of being, they did not listen and I could not change things in the shower, and in one of the hallways by myself, and on my own.  Result: water, water, water, everywhere!

Then the LORD made it clear in my heart that this is a lesson not only for the group here, but also for all of His children!

If we refuse HIS ways and we do not want to listen to one of HIS chosen leaders, we will see things happen which we rather would not have to experience.

When I had to send a Word about God’s army, back in the 90’s, people laughed at me and said God does not work with an army (anymore).  Nowadays we find it normal to read prophetic words about the army or end-time army of the LORD!

A proper army has Officers, Sergeants, and so on…

It is time to know your own call…  and walk in it.

It is time to accept the ways of the LORD and follow them.

It is time to recognize His chosen leaders who will SERVE HIM by SERVING you and will share the visions and tell faithfully what the LORD wants.

YES, we all have the Spirit if we are converted and baptized in spirit and water.  BUT the LORD decides to whom HE gives HIS visions and HIS orders for HIS army divisions!

The more we all obey the deeper and greater the victories we will have!

Leaders:   We serve, we do not command.  We are examples, not BOSSES.  We help and we are forerunners, not doing anything for own name or fame or earning money!

Sheep:   We respect our leaders and pray for them.  And receive them as if we receive Yeshua!

ALL OF US:   Love each other and count the other higher which means respect each other!

Please find scriptures in the Bible for the leaders and the rest of the sheep.

“Where there is no prophetic vision the people a cast off restraint,  but blessed is he who keeps the law,”   Proverbs 29:18-19.

“In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes,”   Judges 21:25.

“Then sang Deborah and Barak the son of Abinoam on that day, saying, Praise ye the LORD for the avenging of Israel, when the people willingly offered themselves.
Hear, O ye kings; give ear, O ye princes; I, even I, will sing unto the LORD;  I will sing praise to the LORD God of Israel.
LORD, when thou wentest out of Seir, when thou marchedst out of the field of Edom, the earth trembled, and the heavens dropped, the clouds also dropped water.
The mountains melted from before the LORD, even that Sinai from before the LORD God of Israel.
In the days of Shamgar the son of Anath, in the days of Jael, the highways were unoccupied, and the travellers walked through byways.
The inhabitants of the villages ceased, they ceased in Israel, until that I Deborah arose, that I arose a mother in Israel.
They chose new gods; then was war in the gates: was there a shield or spear seen among forty thousand in Israel?
My heart is toward the governors of Israel, that offered themselves willingly among the people. Bless ye the LORD.
Speak, ye that ride on white asses, ye that sit in judgment, and walk by the way.
They that are delivered from the noise of archers in the places of drawing water, there shall they rehearse the righteous acts of the LORD, even the righteous acts toward the inhabitants of his villages in Israel: then shall the people of the LORD go down to the gates.
Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, Barak, and lead thy captivity captive, thou son of Abinoam.
Then he made him that remaineth have dominion over the nobles among the people: the LORD made me have dominion over the mighty.
Out of Ephraim was there a root of them against Amalek; after thee, Benjamin, among thy people; out of Machir came down governors, and out of Zebulun they that handle the pen of the writer.
And the princes of Issachar were with Deborah; even Issachar, and also Barak: he was sent on foot into the valley. For the divisions of Reuben there were great thoughts of heart.
Why abodest thou among the sheepfolds, to hear the bleatings of the flocks?  For the divisions of Reuben there were great searchings of heart.  Gilead abode beyond Jordan: and why did Dan remain in ships?  Asher continued on the sea shore, and abode in his breaches.
Zebulun and Naphtali were a people that jeoparded their lives unto the death in the high places of the field.  The kings came and fought, then fought the kings of Canaan in Taanach by the waters of Megiddo; they took no gain of money.
They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.
The river of Kishon swept them away, that ancient river, the river Kishon.  O my soul, thou hast trodden down strength.  Then were the horsehoofs broken by the means of the pransings, the pransings of their mighty ones.
Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the LORD, curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof; because they came not to the help of the LORD, to the help of the LORD against the mighty.
Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be, blessed shall she be above women in the tent.
He asked water, and she gave him milk; she brought forth butter in a lordly dish.
She put her hand to the nail, and her right hand to the workmen’s hammer; and with the hammer she smote Sisera, she smote off his head, when she had pierced and stricken through his temples.
At her feet he bowed, he fell, he lay down: at her feet he bowed, he fell: where he bowed, there he fell down dead.
The mother of Sisera looked out at a window, and cried through the lattice, Why is his chariot so long in coming? why tarry the wheels of his chariots?
Her wise ladies answered her, yea, she returned answer to herself,  Have they not sped? have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two; to Sisera a prey of divers colours, a prey of divers colours of needlework, of divers colours of needlework on both sides, meet for the necks of them that take the spoil?
So let all thine enemies perish, O LORD: but let them that love him be as the sun when he goeth forth in his might. And the land had rest forty years,”
 Judges 5:1-30 (KJV).


Blessings and Shalom over you!
~ Mamme Devorah
Called by Yeshua by the will of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
“Adversity is the spark that lights the matches, to glow the fire of self-confidence,”   Catharina Schouten.

Catharina Schouten-MeijerCatharina Schouten–Meijer (Mamme Devorah) is the founder of Dezerto Floro Foundation – Desert Flower. Blossoming despite hardship!  She encourages, inspires, teaches, and is training and equipping people.  She goes wherever the Father is sending her! She is sent in the Biblical way.  In 1995 the Holy Spirit set her apart, for the work to which He has called her.  Pastor Hendrik – Jan van Mourik – Restoration Church – in the Netherlands, sent her in the apostolic and prophetic ministry in 2006.  Rev. Paul van Beek God’s Outreach Ministry Int. sent her in the Deborah call in 2011.  Ministry mandate: Isaiah 45 Deliverance, Rebuilding, Restoration.

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