Rapture or Not? (Part 2)
See also Part 1: “Rapture or Not?“
Good morning to all.
You will see here in this link below, Part 1. At the very last in the article I had concluded with Hebrews 11.
“Rapture or Not?“
Now we will start first with these scriptures to show that Chapter 11 indeed was talking about the ones who have gone on before us.
“Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.” Hebrews 12:1-3.
To say being a Christian is a most glorious walk is so, but it is a road often times less traveled.
“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” Matthew 7:13-14.
We must be born again.
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” 1 Peter 1:23.
We want to put line upon line and precept upon precept.
“Now I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I AM not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word” John 17:15-20.
( Here please allow me to say: We must see where the ‘Rapture theory’ comes from for the very first time?
In 1830 a woman named Margaret McDonald claimed to see a series of visions concerning a rapture. It caught on and John Darby claimed it also and others started promoting it. Also others in strong leadership began to back it up.
This video I only found this morning for the very first time but found it very well put together! This reveals a lot with the scriptures this man gave. His name is Dalton Thomas.
Again I just watched this video this morning but please follow along! Please read the first Word posted; all the scriptures and the video. It will help put it all in place. We need to stay with the Word of God. )
Four of Dalton’s conclusions. Please know this is just the ‘gist’ of what he spoke in the video:
- The word rapture is not in the Bible.
- It was never taught in Church history before 1830.
- You don’t find the rapture taught outside of the Western world, basically.
- Message of escape not taught from Jesus’ messages.
Let’s Read:
“50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit The Kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” 1 Corinthians 15:50-52.
“1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.” 2 Thessalonians 2:1-17.
God bless you as we seek truth, and expose the error that has slipped into the Church of being “raptured out”.
See also Part 1: “Rapture or Not?“
~ Joyce D. McGuire
My name is Joyce D. McGuire, called to work in and for the Kingdom of God! To lead we must try to follow Jesus Christ closely. That is my heart. I am a Chaplain to the prisons; prophetic intercessor by His grace; author; and a Mother in the Kingdom of God. To many I am simply Mama Joyce. Some favorite verses of mine are Matthew 11:28-30.

Apologies, in my last post, correction: not Matt 24:51 but as you said, 1 Corinthians 15:51.
Very good. As you mention Matthew 24:51 says that we shall all be changed at the last trump. In Revelation, we see that the last trump is the last of the 7 angels after the 7th seal is opened. This is after all the other tribulations. There is no translation of the saints before this time. Revelation 20:4 talks about the souls in heaven that did not worship the beast or receive his mark and many were beheaded. Revelation 20:5 says the rest of the dead did not live again until after the 1000 years. To me this says that many Christians go through great tribulation and many are killed but are the faithful ones resurrected at the last trumpet. Presumably there are still many Christians alive like Paul talks about in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 where the Lord descends with the trump of God, then the saints are caught up with him.
Thank you Mark!!Amen and Amen. God bless you
Being perfected by the working of the Holy Spirit, or attempting to be perfected by suffering enough flesh beatings. I thought the new testament was all about the new creature a man that had been made new so the very Spirit of God could dwell in the man so they did not end up like Ananias and Saphira (old wineskins)and suffer judgment! I thought the cross of Christ was full payment of the debt that I owed but had no way to pay. John says in the book of revelation I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day and heard a voice saying come up hither! And he saw an open door. Now I have not had years of Schooling but I would suspect that what John experienced is critical to understanding Rapture. Hearing the voice of the Spirit if you study the 7 churches who appear to miss this event you will notice each one is told the same thing (hear what the SPIRIT IS SAYING to the churches)
Jesus was baptized in the Holy Spirit when you receive Jesus you receive the Holy Spirit He will help you as much as He can at this point but to open up HOLY SPIRITS Power He has to come up and on you with the evidence of speaking in an unknown tongue. You can do this by yourself just begin in prayer and ask the Holy Spirit to speak through you and let your tongue utter whatever comes up this is a Spiritual experience to train you to hear and know Holy Spirits’ voice.
Jay with all your questions, let the Word of God answer you, sir! I have tried to present Part 1 as a Rhema Word with scriptures also.
Part 2 with a lot of scriptures and a blessed video by a saint of God who thoroughly explained how the error slipped in the church. As I spoke, I found the video yesterday. He patiently taught it out very thoroughly, I belive.
I found that video step by step scripture by scripture where and how the rapture theory came to being.
So respectfully I ask you one question as I asked wveryone to do?
Did you thoroughly read the Word the Spirit of the Lord gave me and all the scriptures and play the video in Part 1 and 2?
Gos bless you.